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Whats wrong with my smash technique? How do I fix it? Never been able to bring ball back to the court

1629 commentsu/Brave-Finish95554w ago
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u/spays_marine4w ago
The honest truth is that you're all still beginners who lack technique. You should stop worrying about smashes because it'll be years before you'll be able to use them effectively. At your skill level, they are simply a liability, not only to your score but probably the health of your shoulder. You're trying to run before you can walk. You need control of your racket, the focus to prepare it instead of having it dangle beside your body, you need to incorporate your entire body and other arm into everything you do. Right now, it looks like your arm is just attached to dead weight. You need to train the opposite of what you're asking for, soft touches, chiquitas, lobs, volleys. Learn tricks with balancing balls on your racket, hell, juggle some balls without a racket when you're not playing. Anything to understand how a ball behaves, how your racket interacts with it, and how you get control from incorporating your body into all of this.
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u/tiltberger3w ago
I am sorry but a simple pop out smash doesn't need years. If you are close to the net it something you can learn very quickly. Way easier than to learn things you listed.
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u/spays_marine3w ago
Not sure what you mean by pop out smash. If it's just an X4 then sure, it's quite easy technically, but is it something that fits in the game of the people of this level? No. He'll probably get to use it once every 4 games, by accident, while all the other things are foundational to the game and used constantly.
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u/kchuen4w ago
Your technique is basically wrong. You’re doing the pancake grip and using mostly your arm. You pretty much need to build your smash from the ground up. No quick tip can fix you.
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u/Sifrisk4w ago
Your sequencing looks off; you are trying to hit the ball very hard with your arms. If you look at the pros you'll see it's more of a full body movement. Not good enough myself to properly critique your technique though without potentially confusing you. Regarding the smash moment itself; for the first it does not seem like the correct choice unless you have a very good smash. Opponents are already halfway towards the net and anticipating the smash. For the second and third; wouldn't it be better to try and simply hit it out directly on the sides? So try and get it over the 3m fence instead of back over the net via the 4m wall? Especially the third seems like a por quatro (but even easier if tried to hit over the fence as it is lower). second potentially as well. Added benefit is that even if you don't hit it hard / high enough, it will get an unpredictable bounce against the fence and end up in the back court which at this level is hard enough to return.
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u/StateDeparmentAgent4w ago
First one was too far away imo, you were almost at the line Second one you were preparing for vibora having racket beside your head and decided to smash at last moment not having enough power Third one was the best in terms of preparations and positioning, you got the best result as a result. More power and practice, it will come
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u/cmc_9204w ago
The first 2 were bad, but also because you picked the wrong shot. The third was better, you contacted the ball nice and high but racket head speed is too slow. Nothing will fix it better than a coach and a few baskets of balls...but the tip I would give is to imagine you're throwing the racket as far away as you can. When you throw, your arms and wrist are all loose and relaxed...you need to do the same for the smash. Throw the racket at the ball. The faster you can throw the racket, the more power you generate in the smash. The power does not come from how strong your arm/body is or how much muscle you put into the shot. If you cannot picture this then really you need a coach to help you develop this technique.
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u/zemvpferreira4w ago
You need to walk before you run. Your body is all over the place, trying to imitate the complex motions you've seen pros do on Premier. That is not the way you build a stroke. The way forward is to start simple and build from the basics. Start by learning the fast smash, which is a very natural throwing motion of the racket against the ball deep into the court to bring the ball close to the net with little risk: [https://www.instagram.com/reels/DS-sNz4CNwh/](https://www.instagram.com/reels/DS-sNz4CNwh/) Then learn the x4, to get the ball out of the court when it's the easiest with your wrist only. After these two strokes are comfortable, you will naturally start combining them to get more height on your ball and develop a power smash back to the court. But it takes investing in the bottom of the pyramid first.
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u/RamizAhmed20054w ago
Kuch bhi nhi hona
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u/Ill_Bodybuilder_6174w ago
there's no whip motion. Also the drive hitting face of the racket should be facing your back, not the ceiling (frying pan). [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/oDeVZS2m9Vs](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/oDeVZS2m9Vs)
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u/ktt_visuals4w ago
If you want to improve your smash, my best tip would be get a coaching session and work on it with someone who can analyze your form and technique in person. That being said, you should focus on other aspects of you game first like positioning and strategy, your smash will probably improve along with them.
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u/Existing_Focus52474w ago
see this [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2buEWWjZzQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2buEWWjZzQ)
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u/Popular_Brick_384w ago
You lack the power. Doesn't look like you come from a tennis background so your motion lacks weight transfer and snap. Aim for the fence or hit the corners
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u/theAGENT_MAN4w ago
You have a flawed technique. Don’t listen to several people in this thread. Your racket is open towards the ball and then you hit the frying pan/pancake smash. It’s obvious from the 2nd video. Don’t open the hand like a bandeja, keep it neutral or closed. My biggest advise is to start with looking at tennis flat serve videos to learn the proper pronation movement.
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u/OtherwiseGur96934w ago
Theres no real explosivity in your action if you're going for a flat smash
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u/Mitch_MK4w ago
There are good advices in the comments, some of them are mentioning body extension, effect and preparation. This will come if you user your legs properly. You need to flex down your legs and position them in a way the direction of the ball is what you want: x3 or taking back the ball over the net have different positions; but the flex is still needed in order to transfer power from your lower body to your upper body. Let's say there are three ways of doing a smash: 1. Unga-bunga: Just pure power and strength. 2. Technique only: Wrist relaxation, kick effect, positioning, preparation. 3: Combination of both 1 and 2. But all 3 will need the ball to hit the floor in a certain place (near the serve line) and hit the glass at a certain height to both go out x3 or come over the net. In the video, both smashes bounce far from the serve line and with lack of power (already covered in other comments). Give it time and practice and you will have it, keep going!
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u/SimilarWatercress6894w ago
Can’t believe how many unhelpful and frankly off comments you’ve received. Basically you’re hitting a flat smash which is only used to put the ball out of the court (por tres or por quatro). We can see you have the ability so get a lesson and get that smash converted to something much more useful. Or youtube vibora & bandeja.
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u/Percevaul4w ago
The problem is that you're hitting with a "frying pan" technique. This may be enough to hit a x4 but will not produce enough force (and 0 spin) to bring the ball back to your court. In order to correct this, you need to change your entire preparation: loosen the wrist and change to an eastern backhand. While the grip change is not strictly necessary it's helpful, especially for you to understand the next few steps: 1. prepare short to start (keep your elbow high) 2. bring the racket behind your back and then up as fast as you can like you would with a hammer (by the edge, not flat) 3. Pronate at impact. Whether you brush the ball out or hit it flat will depend on what you're aiming for (kick or flat respectively), but given where you are right now I'd urge you learn the flat smash first. Once you have this, start paying attention to your feet and body. You're a big guy so you'll want to use that weight to help you produce power. Feet relatively together (Google pinpoint tennis serve), pointing your toes to the side fence, flex your knees a bit and lunch your body up and twist for pronation. If you jump, learn to land only a few cms/inches forward and no more. It's a controller repeatable motion. You're generating power from your legs to your hips into your whipping motion.
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u/TimberNoggins4w ago
Not hard enough + bad technique
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u/LeopardVarious56204w ago
La transferencia del peso/fuerza no es el ideal, pegas muy plano, muy de frente, sin agarrar la pelota tan arriba, y sin topspin. Hay muchos tutoriales en youtube que explican la locomoción, y te recomendaría también practicar aflojar mucho la muñeca, como soltarla a la hora de pegar. El secreto de Leo Augsburger va de todo esto que menciono. Fíjate en cómo juega Chozas, su smash si bien no es el mejor del circuito quizás, técnicamente también es muy bueno y te lo menciono ahora para que en particular te fijes en cómo exagera esta soltura de la muñeca y pala al pegar el smash, es increíble, de verdad lo exagera y es genial para comprender esto. La pala bien firme a la mano pero "soltando" la pala a través de soltar la muñeca.
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u/LeopardVarious56204w ago
Otra cosa: te recomiendo antes de intentar traértela a tu cancha, lo cual requiere mucha más técnica, por el topspin + fuerza requerida, que practiques sacarla x3, ya que requiere mucho menos de todo esto, puedes literalmente no aplicar tanta fuerza y con puro topspin y un buen ángulo, sacarla de la cancha. Es mucho más sencillo y útil, solo es hallarle al ángulo requerido
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u/Top_Paint74424w ago
You are simply not hitting hard enough. In your case I would go soft shots until close to the net and then do a x4. (or over the sides). Plus with your ability none of the smashes were in a good moment. You are smashing while your opponents are at the net, that's never a good idea. go soft and keep the ball in the back. Much more effective.
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u/HumbleWorkerAnt4w ago
> You are simply not hitting hard enough. good smashing technique requires very little power/effort. OP's body position and movement are completely wrong for producing a smash, so it doesn't really matter how hard he hits it.
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u/Top_Paint74424w ago
I disagree. Being able to hit the smash over the net require not only technique, but also racket speed and power.
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u/bachaterol4w ago
Actually it's the contrary. He fails because he uses too much arm and muscle. Needs to relax more and use the kinetic energy that comes from extending the body and the arm consecutively.
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