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Intermediate feeling like not improving despite weekly games and class

725 commentsu/Farmwell5d ago
Hi all, I’ve picked up padel last August and been playing consistently, increasing pace since January to 2-3 games per week and 1 class. I’m intermediate player but struggle to win games and make tons of unforced errors. I’m recording myself more and more, but I feel like people who just start playing, despite having "worse" technique, actually rally much longer. I’m pretty sure there is a mental game here but I’m wondering if anyone has experience the same plateau at some point, and what it took to break through. I’m in love with the sport, but winning more would definitely be welcome! Thank you all for your feedback! Edit: Really appreciate all the answers! This is incredibly helpful!
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u/MurcyFPV5d ago
You’re probably trying to force winners, while people with no technique just keep scraping balls. Just try to keep the rallies 1 ball longer, play smarter balls. Don’t go for hard difficult balls to the fence from the back, but play chiquitas and lobs on easier balls, work your way to the net and play the point from there. You win points by staying at net and just pressuring without taking massive risks. Watching professional games helps too, look at the margin they take on their overheads from the back etc. Hope this helps! :)
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u/FarmwellOP5d ago
Very true! I also often overthink where I should play which is exactly what you are explaining - I’ll try relaxing a bit more!
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u/Queen__Elizabeth__25d ago
Ok so of the top of my head (and take this lightly bc I’m by no means a pro) : - Why are you doing unforced errors? This would be my first question. Is it because you’re going for winners only? Is it because you are not slowing the pace of play? Why? - intermediate players to me face more issues by slowing down games and trying to explore other avenues. Example: do you explore the space in front of your opponent or are they just stuck in the middle/back of the court bc you only do lobs? - In the same way how are you structuring your point? Are you just going with what comes to your mind or do you try to structure your point by consistently trying to get a certain play in? - lastly, when I go to tournaments the first thing that I try is to only be consistent in the first 4 games. Just trying to keep the ball in to figure out my opponent. If my opponent does a lot of the unforced errors then I don’t even need to gameplan I just need to keep the ball in . These are just some things to consider
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u/FarmwellOP5d ago
I think your first point is something I haven’t done enough! I will ask myself that especially over video reviews
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u/BalerionDreadful5d ago
In the same boat! Hope someone has a good advice
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u/PsnBigmitchp235d ago
Film yourself- It realistically is down to: - Bad technique - Wrong shot decisions - Bad positioning - Not having your racket up - Not being in a sporting position on your toes and knees bent to receive/retrieve the ball or play your shot Think about all of these things now about your game and mindset during a match and report back. Then you know which to work on. This is your next step to improving.
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u/FarmwellOP5d ago
Thank you! Very good points I’ll keep in mind over my video review 🙏🏻
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u/nsm15d ago
Consider the following * do you recognize your opponents shots and patterns and adapt accordingly? * Do you recognize where you were standing that opens an exposed spot for your opponent to put the ball away at? * Do you perform worse when playing outdoors in crazy heat? * Do you bring electrolyte drinks and snacks to refuel as you go? * Don't be afraid to take a week or 2 off to rest
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u/FarmwellOP5d ago
I always underestimate snacks and drink and can definitely feel the difference - some people I play with never break in two sets and it takes a toll on me! Someone else also recommended playing consistenly for the first four games which would help on the point you made about knowing how my opponents play and adapt to it. Maybe a bit early for me to say I can do it, but I’ll try!
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u/IIIIIlIIIIIlIIIII5d ago
Are you training tho? As in, trying to volley using the right technique a hundred times in 1 session. 
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u/FarmwellOP5d ago
I typically train with a coach on specific moves or dynamics, but I think my volleys are my biggest weak point; loosing so many unforced errors on the wall, bad positioning, or giving easy balls are for sure something I could spend more time on
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u/SeaworthinessDry78285d ago
Maybe you focused on technique too much? At one point, it will be hard to improve fast on technique. To reach advanced level, you need to start to look into strategies such as how to build up your point, or how to exploit opponent weakness, or off the ball movement etc. Maybe start there and see if you can see marked improvement.
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u/FarmwellOP5d ago
I think that’s definitely it, I’m thinking too much on technique, forgetting to open the racket, reacting to shots, and trying too many things instead of "just" playing the game. Focusing on strategy might be the breakthrough, but I fear my technique is not good enough to place balls where I want!
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u/Pretty-General67534d ago
I focused earlier alot on improving my game. I trained spesific things and felt like I strugled to implement those things into game. My game was all over the place. Lately Ive been just playing. The funny part? I have been playing better after I stopped training and just focused on enjoying the game. Intuition of my game has improved and I notice doing things I wasnt able to do. Placement seems finally to click. For me the gains of active training came after I stopped the training. One reason might be that I have better focus on the game itself. I have now less thoughts but it only helps me to do the right things. I would say try taking a break from training, try to play intuitive padel and go back to training mode later. Sometimes less is more.
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u/motleycrue5555d ago
What are you using to analyse your game after filming? I’m trying to build up the “courage” to film my games
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u/FarmwellOP5d ago
For now, I was just trying to see areas I felt were bad, but there are some very good responses here advising to understand _why_ it resulted in an error, which isn’t something I was doing! I’ve seen there are some softwares but haven’t used one for now, curious to know if anyone tried!
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u/Masty19925d ago
There’s a couple of things that make your game more conservative and boring but more consistent and I had to implement them for a while to improve. One is moving my net position back by like 1 metre and only closing in on perfect opportunities. The other is a big thick grip. Both of these kind of take away your most aggressive shots but give you more consistency and control and it’s a way to build and then reintroduce your smashes and stuff as you get more used to boring play first
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u/FarmwellOP5d ago
Thank you! I’ve indeed moved closer to the net for some unknown reason, so I’ll try moving back a bit.
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u/Mohinder_DE5d ago
Be patient, my overheads took a lot more than 8 month to evolve. Yes, there are faster learners and there are slow responders. Its a process with ups and downs. Trainer balls are a nice foundation, but in games you get anti trainer balls which are hard to play or mishit balls which are not clean, too. Have some fun with your personal process even if it is slow. Sometimes a racket with better controll and less oomph and less trampoline helps a little.
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u/FarmwellOP5d ago
It’s always good to know we are not alone 🥲 I’m playing with a Nox ML10 Pro Cup but it feels like it has pretty big trampoline, so I’m considering other options (Metalbone Ctrl 3.4 or Head Coello Motion)
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u/dmackerman4d ago
Play an entire session and don’t hit a single winner. Don’t hit a vibora or smash. Focus on placing the ball. Without seeing your footage it’s hard to tell
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u/FarmwellOP4d ago
I feel like I don’t have the time to think where to put the ball, especially when I’m at the net. I turn autopilot on and just react to shots… do you have any advice there, or tips at the net? I’ve tried not hitting any winners today but got overwhelmed by poor ball placement
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u/Creative_Election2885d ago
First of all, don't be too hard on yourself. The plateau is part of the game. Here are 3 things that helped me break through: 1.Analyze your mistakes: Don’t just get frustrated, identify why you lost the point. For a while, I realized I was losing most points because of poor positioning. I was stuck in the 'No Man’s Land' way too often. Once I fixed my positioning, my game changed 2.Hard balls easy, easy balls hard: This is a golden rule. * If you get a difficult, fast ball while defending, play it simple and flat. Don't try a lob because it requires perfect technique under pressure, or you’ll just give them an easy smash. * If you get an easy, slow ball, that’s your chance to be creative with a lob or a chiquita. 3.Stop trying to end the point too fast: This is the most common mistake in intermediate levels (I still struggle with this sometimes!). Instead of playing a simple shot to the middle or open space to build the point, we try to hit a 'smart' winner into a tight corner or the side fence. Most of the time, it hits the fence or the glass. The problem isn't your skill.. it's your decision-making. Try to play simpler, build the point patiently, and let the opponent make the mistake.
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u/FarmwellOP5d ago
Thank you for the great advice! I was actually doing the complete opposite and trying lob on fast balls and flat on easy balls… will try to adapt!!
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u/Adventurous-Monk79755d ago
Just keep preserving- it will come
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