💬 Discussion 💬
The #2s just cheated on their way to victory against Goenaga and Caldera
Did anyone else notice that Bea served three times in a row in the third set? First at 2-1 down, then at 4-1 and then again at 5-2. How the hell is that even possible at this level with an umpire? So they made a comeback from being 5-1 down in the third set to win the match.
Comments (35)
u/LoneKnight251d ago
Just checked that and you are correct, it's wild. I would not call it cheating as the umpire suppose to call who is serving and just did a terrible job, never seen something like that.
14
u/levimuddy23h ago
I suppose Cheating implies intent which may or may not be there.
Regardless should be disqualified.
Edit: at 2-5 they got who was serving right and the coach stepped in and said it was Bea who was supposed to serve.
-4
u/epegar20h ago
Disqualified? That's not on the rules, and that doesn't make sense. The rules say that when the issue is detected, any previous points remain valid.
5
u/schadenfreude3451d ago
Calling it cheating is a bit OTT though. Clearly just a mistake especially as can't imagine there was a signifcant advantage.
13
u/Extension_Hospital7522h ago
The fact that they still got to 5-1 down implies that they weren't gaining much advantage from it!
3
Meaning that the fact is they only needed to get the advantage of one game out of those 3 times she served in a row, which they got at 5-2 so they got all the advantage they needed.
0
u/Sarritgato23h ago
How on earth do you make that mistake twice? I don’t buy it
2
u/schadenfreude34519h ago
Because normally teams have a set decision on who serves which game: typically you calculate it not by who served last but who served first and therefore if it is the 1st or 2nd player. It means that the issue wasn't necessarily twice, but primarily for the game where they served the wrong way around
2
u/iksportnietiederedag23h ago
I wouldn't consider this cheating either, but it's too easy to say it's just a mistake. I've had situations where I was wondering if I served previously, but three times in a row?!
0
u/schadenfreude34519h ago
it's not really 2 separate mistakes though. It was one of those situations where one service game was the wrong way around.
It clearly is a mistake that doesn't happen often, but they play hundreds of sets so it's not really shocking that it happens once every couple of years on tour
2
u/jmOropeza3217h ago
You’re looking at it the wrong way, Bea didn’t served wrong three times, she serve correctly once, then made the mistake of serving again and when noticed was corrected hence why she served again cause the rulebook indicates that the when an error in order is noticed it has to be corrected to the proper order
1
Rules are rules and they were broken.
-18
u/schadenfreude34519h ago
There's a massive difference between breaking rules and breaking rules intentionally to gain an advantage
3
u/mac017222h ago
A broken rule is only a broken rule when noticed by a ref. Thats how pretty much every sport works.
1
u/epegar20h ago
They probably made the mistake and later realized and decided to keep the natural order of play. In the end it was just one game they swapped server. And they lost the first 2 times Bea served (including the one she shouldn't have served) , so, I highly doubt they were getting any advantage from that.
Anyway, it was a great game, the opponents challenged them, and they scored 6-0 in the second set and managed a fantastic come-back in the 3rd set.
If all you got from the game is that they "cheated", I'm sorry for you.
10
u/mac017222h ago
How you not notice this as an opponent is insane to me
1
True but unlike us non professionals they are not supposed to have to keep count since there's an umpire who's paid to do that
3
u/mac017222h ago
Well in case the ref is not paying attention it's good to be sharp enough to point it out
1
u/schadenfreude34510h ago
I don't think it's that uncommon at recreational level. Consider how many games are played on tour each year. I remember it happening at least once on the mens side too but don't remember if it was 2024 or 2025
2
u/mac017210h ago
Yeah it might happen unnoticed one time but one opponents serving 3 times in row it just wild
1
u/sup3rfm18h ago
https://www.sporttv.pt/videos/368532242/smart_moments/video/14375/cancun-p2-o-que-foi-isto Bea tells the umpire "What? I didn't serve from there..."
1
u/shams881d ago
How could she serve at 2-1 and 4-1? Those would be served by opposite teams
-1
u/spikefly1d ago
Huh? No. I didn’t watch this, but he’s saying she served to start 1-2, then they served to start 1-3, then she served again to start 1-4. Those points would definitely be served by the same team.
2
Not at all. If she serves at 2-1 the other team serves at 3-1 and then they serve again at 4-1 in which case Paula should have served but Bea did again. Same thing at 5-2.
1
u/Pigglebee23h ago
Was it a tie break? The proper example would be: Bea serves at 2-1, lose point, serve again at 3-1. Lose again so it is 4-1. Opponent serves to 5-1 and then to 5-2. And then Bea serves again
1