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Bandeja Practice

1728 commentsu/singh2466w ago

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u/Mag01uk6w ago

Take a bucket and spade in your bag next time. Sandiest court I’ve ever seen

u/LooseCandidate6w ago

I learned the bandeja in a completely different way, but I find it difficult to explain it properly in writing without being able to demonstrate it. When you are about to hit the ball, you rotate your body fully forward. I was taught to keep my body more sideways, with my feet almost pointing toward the fence until point of contact. Your non-dominant hand starts pointing above your head because of this too I think, whereas I was taught to keep it more to the side, slightly above ear height, to guide the ball almost all the way to the point of contact. I hope this makes as much sense to you as it does in my head, haha..

u/iksportnietiederedag6w ago

>keep my body more sideways, with my feet almost pointing toward the fence until point of contact. I think that is the most important observation. He is facing the net on impact. And before impact, his preparation is jumping backwards almost. He should fix his footwork first before thinking about perfecting his arm/shoulder motion.

u/Free-Scratch-29646w ago

these points are good for the left-side player hitting cross. When youre on the right side, hitting cross bandeja, you need more angle and hit more in open stance. Hope it makes sense

u/Free-Scratch-29646w ago

Sorry for my previous correction on the comment, didn't read your points very well. Now for the technique part: 1. COILING. You should keep more open stance, but your upper body (shoulder line) should be ~~twisted~~ not in line with your waist line/legs line. That way you will get more upper body rotation (so, stable power) without forcing it with your hand (uncontrollable power). The red line on the picture is how it should be. TIP: try practicing catching the ball with your non dominant hand. Not by moving your hand, but by adjusting your footwork so the ball falls in your palm without adjusting your hand (it will lead to stable shoulder position untill the point of impact). After you get the feeling (after 10-20 balls), try changing "catching the ball" action with the hitting the ball by the racket at the last second. 2. JUMPING. Try listening to the guys who say "don't jump" to you. Not because it is wrong (all of the pro players do that), but because judging from the video, you don't have total control over the shot, and adding jumping action above your developing technique will harm you. Instead, always try to get under the ball with your footwork, and later, after you will get "that" feeling, you can practice jumping. It will add on to your shot naturally. Also, try observing pro players, the most perfect technique of right-sided player in my opininon is by Chingotto ([https://www.instagram.com/reels/C6ZGrHpNyu6](https://www.instagram.com/reels/C6ZGrHpNyu6)) https://preview.redd.it/g1ozhenqo1ng1.png?width=468&format=png&auto=webp&s=088d82ad29b0489fecefcd526c2bbf75aa6f5594

u/roymu6w ago

is this beach tennis?

u/joaopps20195w ago

Came looking for this

u/askldhalsiuhdliu6w ago

The number one problem I see with bandejas, specially because people see the pros do it and don't understand how they do it. DO NOT JUMP. Move faster and get a good stance. And then 'rotate' the body so that you give forward momentum to the ball. You are jumping back, rotating the body and then hitting the ball. All that 'effort' is going sideways/back, and then is just the arm power that is throwing the ball forward. If you see in detail the pros, when they jump, they 'rotate' the body in a way that they are throwing their bodyweight forward, even if jumping back. I think it is hard to see from the typical back camera position, but if you see it sideways, you can see (for example Chingotto is a prime example), that their feet 'fall' behind their body. Their body is sorta like this with feet closer to the back wall than the top of the body `( ) <- head` `\` ¯¯¯`\` <- arms `| \` `net here | _\ <- feet` So move back faster, and hit the ball with a forward momentum 'more in front of you' almost. Only a very defensive bandeja (at line) should be done while falling backwards and only at some times.

u/itsbobbytime6w ago

>DO NOT JUMP. You can jump if you get all the techniques right. Pushing the ball with your torso and shoulder while facing sideways instead of hitting/slapping the ball with your arms facing forward.

u/mcdaawg926w ago

Jumping is not something recreational players should implement in their overheads. It just adds more difficulty with no real upside to it. Especially not jumping backwards.

u/bachaterol6w ago

Both feet are in the air when you hit the ball. You need to stop, hit and transfer weight back to the front foot to start running to the net. You also prepare your racket too late. Try not to cross your feet when you run sideways. The chances are high that you will stumble.

u/SeaworthinessDry78286w ago

Cross step is actually legitimate technique in tennis. It is the footwork to use if you want to cover large distance. Don't know if it is needed in padel though Other than that, I agree with the other point.

u/MarokkosFavPerson5w ago

be faster behind the ball. stop body movement. hit the ball on your 9, beside your body. rotate your body. edit: oh and there is no need to jump, before you not at least FIP level silver+. and even in this level most dont do it.

u/Existing_Daikon_6226w ago

Right arm can go way back in preparation also you are hitting with your elbow flexed, this is instinctive but means you are stressed about the shot. Relax, you dont have to hit it so close to your body. try and be a little bit further and hit it with an open elbow, while doing that try and make it so you force comes from rotating your torso instead of your arm, this will obligate you to also be sideways to gather that range of motion and transfer it to the ball, while being sideways you can take easier strides backwards, go behind the ball and make it so your motion is towards the net (in the video you go towards the glass when hitting it) I would give it a 7/10, you are doing what the shot is supposed to be doing, just gotta be more definitive about it

u/Maguncia6w ago

Try not to jump - less weight transfer into the shot, less consistent, slower to recover to net. And it wasn't like this was a very high ball.

u/morningcoff3e6w ago

I think jumping is fine, as long as the bodyweight is being moved forward. In the clip, the jump is falling backwards, so it slows his recovery just as you say.

u/mcdaawg926w ago

I’d say learn the bandeja/vibora without jumping. Much easier to master whereas the jumping doesn’t really add any benefit with another 30% difficulty added to the shot. Amateur players are not good enough nor well trained to implement the jumping like the pros do.

u/Free-Scratch-29646w ago

yes, try falling on left foot, it will help with the balance

u/jenwhite19746w ago

More important than your technique is where the ball hits the ground on the opponent’s side (it should be deep, close to the service line or past it) and to some degree, how much bounce there will be if it goes off the opponent’s back glass. A ball that hits the ground short can give the opponent options to take the net. So from that perspective, it’s not a good bandeja as it was short Here’s an example of a pair that does bandejas well that allowed them to keep the net. Notice that all the bandejas had depth and generally low bounce off the back glass: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DU3ctN0DH48/?igsh=ZXlsam1ndnU2YXZk

u/Pretty-General67536w ago

I would say overall it looks good. Bounce is probably low due to low contact and judging by the racket swing it seems to have enough slice. Cross stepping is great. If youre consistent with that technique and have wished amount of power, don't change anything major. Id say go backwards little bit faster if possible and try to hit it while your weight is lraning already forward. Your recovery will be faster. Its the biggest advantage you'll gain if your happy with your hits otherwise. If youre unhappy with some aspect of your hit and running faster doesnt fix it, then you should tweak other things.

u/SirWestbrick6w ago

Honest question, why do people even play in these courts? And if there is no other club in the area why don’t people file a formal complaint in the club? The state of that court is completely unacceptable.

u/ilike_trains6w ago

Nice low contact slow shot, I've been told to get my arms up early so the racket comes down the back of the ball, for me if I had your low racket position I'd be relying too much on timing and would sometimes hit up and out

u/Siinxx6w ago

From my experience, correct me if I'm wrong people, you could stretch your guiding arm more in the air and your elbow should be more up. So you can hit it a bit higher. I think you are on the edge of how low you can hit the ball. On the video it looks like you are pivoting well, but try to extend your arms more and put that elbow up. You could exaggerate to see how it feels. Let me know how it feels when you have tried it :) And have fun playing!

u/Percevaul6w ago

Not bad at all for a jumping bandeja. Yes, people will tell you that the footwork needs to be improved so you never hit it on the air, that you have to transfer weight, etc. However this is a very valid shot and one that you need to master anyway. The only caveat I have is that when playing this defensive, jumping bandeja, you need to hit it deep to gain time and recover the net. Note, it also cannot be a high rebound down the middle or you're dead even if you get to the net.