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Hitting flat or top in defense?

523 commentsu/jdanroses6w ago
Hi padel community, I’m an intermediate player that has taken around 10-15 classes in total+training and since the first one my coach told and taught me it was better to hit the ball with topspin when defending from the back, his argument is that the ball is more likely to cross the net (and stay low, close to it) due to the parabole trajectory that topspin produces instead of a straight line, hitting it mid-speed so that it does not give as much rebound on the glass (he says best return is the one that bounces twice in the opposite field before dying by the glass) and that it takes less physical energy than hitting flat (with proper topspin technique), so you want to use as less energy with the best outcome for long games. Ever since then I’ve had trouble to get the proper technique for my backhand and at some point stopped going for topspin and started hitting flat, which improved my backhand a lot and made me stop slicing the ball. However when I train he will still correct me and say that I’m hitting too flat, and that I need to do the proper topspin technique, which has reset the progress I had with flat hitting. I’ve read that hitting flat is better, and also that it depends on the moment (hitting top or flat) but I’d like to know some of your opinions on what works and does not work for you.
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Comments (23)

u/jrstriker126w ago
I haven't had a padel coach advocate for hitting a lot of top spin. Problem is, top spin will kick you ball up off the glass.
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u/jdanrosesOP6w ago
Maybe I forgot to put it in the main post, but the way he wants me to hit top is by not hitting as hard, so that the ball bounces twice in the field (dies by the glass) Just put that portion in the main post, thanks for your input!
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u/rickyrran6w ago
Your instinct is right imo, my coach stands by flat shots always until you've really mastered the technique, you will achieve balls hitting close to the net based on your technique and body posture, bend knees slightly, pay attention to your feet positioning and use that to transfer your bodyweight when impacting the ball, it is not just about the arm movement. Top spin at low-mid level is really not worth forcing into your skill set
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u/jdanrosesOP6w ago
I agree with your coach, forcing myself to hit top all the time when starting out really staggered my progress, once I started hitting flat my level went from like 1.5 to 3.5 (to give an estimate, I know PT level is not really a good reference point) And yes, I agree that it is not only arm motion but the whole kit, even I surprise myself when I hit very very low balls because I had the racket/body prepared beforehand. thanks for the input!
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u/tiltberger6w ago
I never heard about top spin. Difficult shots are blocked and played flat or short if possible. Easier attacks get lobbed
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u/askldhalsiuhdliu6w ago
Hitting flat is 'easier'. You can do it from more stances, and recover easier as well. Top-spin is a bit harder, less control and badly done will give the adversaries an easy ball, but it does give you the advantage of being able to get a slight more safe net clearance without being too high when the adversary will volley. You can see this in most of the pros that they impart some top-spin (not tennis like though) so the ball drops more into the feet of the people at net. (one thing I will say though, if you are playing against someone with a very 'good hand' at net, specially with dropshots, don't use top-spin. This makes it much much easier for them to do a drop shot than if flat.) (ps: regarding the ball bouncing from the wall with top-spin, while true, I really think this is a bad advice since very very hardly when you are in defence will you play a shot that will pass both players, get close to the glass and rebound high. Actually, same speed ball, with and without topspin will probably get less rebound as the ball trajectory when hitting the back glass will probably be already descending while flat will be ascending).
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u/Adept_Deer_59766w ago
You need to switch grip to hit with proper topspin, which can be a real challenge in terms of your hands and coordination for people inexperienced with racket sports. I’ve heard people say hit with a bit of topspin for chicquitas, but not for other shots (save for a kick smash, obviously).
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u/zemvpferreira6w ago
I wouldn't change grip for shots at the back regardless of the spin you're hitting. It makes the stroke too easy to read for your opponents since you can't really play anything else off that preparation. If you keep the same grip/preparation (usually short and continental) for lobs, chiquitas and strong shots it gives you a massive tactical edge. Even if it does make it harder to generate topspin.
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u/jdanrosesOP6w ago
yes! he always yells at me because I only rotate my grip a little bit and not all the way to hit proper backhand topspin. and to your point when I started I’d never played any racket sport before, adds up. Thanks!
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u/IIIIIlIIIIIlIIIII6w ago
İmo what he says is right but its just a tool in the box. Hittinf it flat can also be option, like hiting flat high to the backhand of the opponent. 
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u/zemvpferreira6w ago
It's surprising to hear a coach put so much emphasys on topspin, especially at the intermediate level. And with grip changes too? That's flat out unadvisable for anyone. I don't want to talk trash about work I haven't seen but it is very peculiar the way you're describing it. Regardless, he's your coach and you have to decide whether to buy in or not.
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u/jdanrosesOP6w ago
yes, I admit he has a very peculiar style because he has a tennis background so he mixes things from both sports, but around 80% of the things he has taught me do end up working. And also yes, I don’t buy-in on the topspin, that’s why I wanted to know other opinions (looks like most of other players agree with me haha)
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u/zemvpferreira6w ago
I imagined he would've been more focused on tennis and possibly even somewhat new to teaching padel. Regardless, what matters is that you're growing and enjoying yourself even if in a few years you've abandoned some of his teachings.
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u/Upper-Application5836w ago
U can hit flat hard to the body, high backhands soft
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u/Existing_Daikon_6226w ago
Top spin is the best possible shot imo. I am with im in that the perfect defence is that topspin chiquita, however, the real world is not that perfect Topspin is a hard shot in padel compared to tennis, you need a goood execution, and sometimes the opponent wont give you the time for that, at the level i am at i use topspin when i like the ball, but dont like it enough to lob it, or either already lobbed it and want to change it a bit. Great volleys will be fast and low and of course topspin will still be the best defence but it becomes exponentially hard with the ball velocity My algorithm RN is: Hard volley -> flat, the best ball is always the ball that continues the point Medium volley -> flat / topsin low return Easy volley > lob / chiquita with topsin
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u/jdanrosesOP6w ago
that is a great formula! I will try to apply it and go for top spin on balls that arent that hard but not as easy for a lob
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u/Upper-Application5836w ago
I only hit topspin in easy shots for chiquitas and its not alot of topspin either
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u/isolating6w ago
I think it would be better to master the flat technique as a base, and when you progress you start to slowly add a bit of topspin if it suits you.
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u/jdanrosesOP6w ago
this seems like the way to go, I will try to master flat hitting first!
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u/Histogenesis6w ago
I dont understand. Is he teaching you tennis or padel? If you are at the net you are playing volleys. If you are defending and the opponents are at the net, they will play volleys with backspin either dying before the glas or with little rebound after the glass. Those are very low backspin balls. You dont even have room to play a proper topspin shot from these balls. Its almost like he is teaching tennis slugfests where you and the opponents are at the serviceline, but that is not how padel is played.
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u/arm0896w ago
Top spin for chiquitas and flat hard to the body otherwise unless ball is easy enough to lob it.
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u/Jason_3726w ago
This is an interesting thread given the disparity in views. Imo, you can’t hit top spin when the ball has rebounded off the back glass since you just need to push the ball to get it to clear the net at a low net clearance. However, when the ball has coming towards you at a slow or moderate pace without hitting the back glass, I agree with your coach that a small amount of top spin (just by rolling the wrist, but still having a short back swing and no grip changes, so not like tennis) is optimal since it will force your opponent to play the ball below the height of the net. Imo this applies regardless of whether you are playing a Chiquita or a normal groundstroke (but obviously lobs should not have top spin). If the ball is coming at you with a high pace, you can’t really play top spin so you need to either block it back flat or use the back wall.
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u/Stup2plending6w ago
My coach from Argentina tells me this too. In my case, it's on the backhand side (which I can do) but because my slice from the back floats sometimes making it easier for my opponents. He tells me topspin from the back at medium pace is good just like your coach is telling you.
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